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FAQ

Have you had someone tell you one of these whoppers?

“We can withdraw from Common Core any time we want to.”

Not only is it unrealistic to think the state would withdraw once it’s spent millions of dollars in compliance, but the best response was from one senator who said: “Yes, we can withdraw from Common Core any time we want, just as we can withdraw from the federal highway program any time we want. But we don’t do that. We’re on the federal hook and they’re reeling us in.”

“I’m on the _______ school board and Common Core is not the nationalizing of education.”

Oh really? Have you read the contracts Utah’s leaders have signed? We have contractual obligations we are responsible for and the longer we stay in the more committed we will be and the greater the problems with getting out of a bad situation.

24 Responses to FAQ

  • Cammie Nebeker says:

    My Dad taught me to think for myself. Anytime I wanted to follow the crowd, he made me ask myself, will it make you a better person? So when I heard my Superintendent and School Board Chair tell me a year ago, “It’s Out of our hands, why is everyone jumping on board? So I asked myself, Is this really better, should Utah follow the crowd?

    After a year of Researching and asking questions, the AnSWER is NOOOOOO! The documents state clearly that we are not going to be thinking for ourselves. One of the biggest misconceptions, or lies, told about this, is that this is utah’s common core. I have read the documents, it clearly states that we had to accept the common core standards as written!!!! We have signed our right to sign for ourselves to Washington State who is the lead State in the smarter balance assessment consortium. it is not just a matter of we want out and it is done. Besides that, no cost anaylsis was done.

    so, my dad was right, think for ourselves, utah, we have dedicated teachers, parents, administrators who truly care what happens to our children and it has been taken out of our hands!!

  • Linda Ogden says:

    …and the Common Core conspiracy resumes. Yada, yada, yada! Blah, blah, blah. Give it a rest already.

    I am sick of the tea party/eagle forum’s fear-mongering.

    noun
    [mass noun]
    the action of deliberately arousing public fear or alarm about a particular issue:
    his campaign for re-election was based on fearmongering and deception

    • Jac says:

      Linda, it’s not just tea party members against Common Core. There’s a large and growing group of liberal Democrats in California fighting it, too. No all liberals are progressive, and we’re seeing more democrats waking up and fighting back against Common Core.

  • Oak Norton says:

    Linda, I’m glad you’re checking out the site but I really think you should just look at the citations instead of engaging in these types of statements. We’ve provided a lot of references and our opponents in the USOE have not. They say things without backing them up with documents. Our statements are either true or they are not. Show us where they are false if you would like but this type of post doesn’t reflect what’s happening on this site.

  • Cristine says:

    Where are the frequently asked question? There are only the two above. There aren’t more questions??????

    • Oak Norton says:

      You’re right Cristine. We’ve focused more on the content of the site and forgotten about the FAQ. We’re a bit overloaded so unless people ask us specific questions, we’ll just keep posting the stuff we’re digging up.

      • Chelsea says:

        Here’s a specific question someone asked me on facebook that could be included under your “FAQ” section:

        “In talking with others who are involved in the education system, it is my understanding that this is not coming from the federal government. Is this true?”

        • Oak Norton says:

          Chelsea, there are many players in Common Core. One of them most certainly is the federal government. The feds have been specifically barred in statute from creating national standards, so they let the Gates Foundation direct the states to create Common Core standards. However, the states didn’t even know who was on the drafting committee of the standards. The Gates Foundation set this all up with millions of dollars to the organizations involved. The feds for their part offered a few billion dollars to the states in a contest called Race to the Top. RTTT was the golden carrot states couldn’t resist. They applied for this grant money and as part of the application had to agree to adopt Common Core. The feds coerced the states into adopting the standards and the feds have put $350 billion into two assessment consortium’s called PARCC and the SBAC (Smarter Balanced Assessment Consortium). This is a very brief look at the situation. I recommend you go to the Action List link at the top of the site and click to the page on getting educated. There are several articles and videos linked to from there that will help explain everything.

          • Ryan says:

            It’s just like with the drinking age. Contrary to popular belief, there is no federal minimum drinking age. States can adopt whatever age they want. But the federal government, just as in this situation, has said that they will not give public highway funds to those states who have a drinking age lower than 21. Most states couldn’t upkeep with public highways without those funds so they adopt the federal “suggestion.” But essentially the federal government is mandating the age limit. That’s how they work, they dangle the carrot (read: large sums of money), and most states can’t resist/survive without it so the federal governments gets compliance and claim it’s voluntary.

  • Danette says:

    There are more reasons to oppose Common Core than the data collection, dumbing down, etc. Is it fear mongering, Linda, to be opposed to our children being indoctrinated with pro-communist, anti-God garbage? Its certainly not fear mongering when the educators behind Common Core are literally breaking the law and violating our Constitutional rights. There is proof at the link below and more proof at my site that the progressive education movement backed and promoted by Bill Ayers for 30 years is the same movement behind Common Core and CSCOPE in Texas. We don’t want it – plain and simple. http://danetteclark.wordpress.com/2013/03/09/unravelled-the-30-year-agenda-behind-common-core/

    Oak, I actually came here to find out if you guys are tea party affiliated. You are doing a great job on your own, so it doesn’t matter. I’m just curious because I am hoping to encourage a few people in other states who have contacted me because they have no groups in their area fighting Common Core. They want their local tea party to help so I may compile a list of tea parties already engaged as a resource for those looking for help. The more people joined as one unit, the better. Thank you!

  • Ralph says:

    This should be re-named Utahn’s blindly against anything and everything to do with President Obama regardless of the probable positive effects on our children’s education and future prospects.

    • Oak Norton says:

      Typical of the pro-Common Core side, name call, stereotype, and fail to produce any evidence of your position. FYI, there are liberals opposed to Common Core as well as conservatives. You need to study the issues Ralph.

    • Brooke says:

      “This should be re-named [Liberals] blindly against anything and everything to do with [Conservatives] regardless of the probable positive effects on our children’s education and future prospects.”

      • Oak Norton says:

        This is truly a bi-partisan issue. Conservatives against nationalization, Liberals against data mining and tracking, and corporate special interests making billions, etc… There are things for everyone to be disgusted with so there is no need for labeling this issue with partisan labels.

        • Brooke says:

          Hi Oak :) I agree that this is a bi-partisan issue. My post was just to point out the irony and hypocrisy of the person who DID come here to label. It is not a statement made to reflect my own political leanings. Thanks for all the great information on this site!

  • Arian Hatch says:

    Thanks for this website. I live in Arizona but while I was doing research on Common Core, I found this website and it helped give me more info rather than just all the “pro” Common Core lingo. Definitely interesting to see both sides. Thanks for the time and effort.

  • I oppose Common Core. I campaigned, along with my children/teens, for President Obama. Prior to that, I was active in my support for Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Party nomination. My last place of residence before moving to Utah was San Francisco, CA…not exactly a “Tea Party” hang out. The co-author of my recent note to the Superintendent, Attorney Edward D. Flint, is not only liberal, but probably more liberal than anyone who will ever post on this site…..Mr. Flint is so left leaning that he would not object if you called him a “Socialist”. That said, we are both against Common Core as it currently stands today. Our reasonings for our objection to the Core have been outline that past month in multiple letters to the community, and community leaders. I’m sure you will find, upon further examination, that not one mention of “God”, “Republican”, or “Tea Party” were referenced in our objections.

  • McKenna says:

    Would CommonCore also affect the rights of private schools to make their own standards and curriculum? Does it change or affects our rights to homeschool in any way?

    • Oak Norton says:

      Yes, private schools are affected but differently. The college entrance exams are being restructured to align with Common Core. This way, anyone who goes through a private school or home school program will be at a disadvantage unless they conform to the Common Core standards and curriculum.

      • McKenna says:

        I’m thinking though, that private schools and home schools (not always, but often) would have higher standards and therefore would easily pass the entrance exams, right? Or am I missing the point?

        • Oak Norton says:

          Yes on both. :) They should have higher standards, but they may choose broader content. In the past that wasn’t penalized but the assessments and exams will become the target of all teaching which will lead to a common curriculum. In the past the ACT was broad and you didn’t always know what would be on it. Now it will be aligned to Common Core. As a result, education will suffer. We will push all children into the same mold.

      • McKenna says:

        I’m not being snarky, i’m really wondering if i’m off the mark…the main concern with common core is that our education quality would go down, right?

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